Resources and scenarios

[HBuhring]

When representing in a scenario a nation that is engaged in more than a theatre, obviously there must be some sort of assumption of how much of the economic resources the nation will be willing to dedicate to that theatre.
But on another plan the technology investment of a nation is global -- so it must be represented as 100% of the nation's capacity in each theatre.

I understand that in SAS WW2 every theatre is an entirely separate game, so I don't expect this aspect to be simulated. But
1. I wonder how this aspect was taken in consideration when building the campaigns
2. I'd like to get some suggestions in order to build realistic campaigns on my own.

Example: Britain was engaged in three theatres at least in WW2: the Atlantic, the Med and the Indian-Pacific (plus the minor theatres in Africa and Asia): could be a ratio of 60-25-15 be realistic?
And how big was, as a percentage of the global economic resouces of Britain, the investment in technologies? (one more doubt: American help on the tech and industrial level was heavy: is this factored somehow in the British economy of SAS?)

OK, I know this is far from clear and straightforward -- that's why I'm asking for help...

Cheers

HB

[tony_glazebrook]

When representing in a scenario a nation that is engaged in more than a theatre, obviously there must be some sort of assumption of how much of the economic resources the nation will be willing to dedicate to that theatre.
But on another plan the technology investment of a nation is global -- so it must be represented as 100% of the nation's capacity in each theatre.

I understand that in SAS WW2 every theatre is an entirely separate game, so I don't expect this aspect to be simulated. But
1. I wonder how this aspect was taken in consideration when building the campaigns
2. I'd like to get some suggestions in order to build realistic campaigns on my own.

Example: Britain was engaged in three theatres at least in WW2: the Atlantic, the Med and the Indian-Pacific (plus the minor theatres in Africa and Asia): could be a ratio of 60-25-15 be realistic?
And how big was, as a percentage of the global economic resouces of Britain, the investment in technologies? (one more doubt: American help on the tech and industrial level was heavy: is this factored somehow in the British economy of SAS?)

OK, I know this is far from clear and straightforward -- that's why I'm asking for help...

Cheers

HB

HB - your question is something I don't have time to do justice to at the moment, but maybe others here can help. It is certainly something we will be looking at closely when we start seriously thinking about multi-theatre campaigns, but as I said in another post, this will be a little way off.

I DID sort of model some of this in the Atlantic scenario. I gave Britain a requirement to meet supply targets to Gibraltar as well (after June 41) as to Murmansk and Leningrad, to reflect her commitments to other theatres (Med and Russian Front). Failure to meet those targets affects her chances of winning. I did this mainly because those commitments directly affected the shape of the convoys that the allies needed to maintain across the Atlantic and in the North and Barents Seas. The ability to set these special objectives is a feature I worked in at the last moment and there isn't a UI for you guys to do this at the moment in your own scenarios -I used the powers vested in me as the almighty creator to do that :-) But I will at least include the UI for this in an update.

[HBuhring]

So, if 30000 tons of shipping must be sent each month to Gibraltar, I could assume that 30 RP are the monthly resources of the Med theatre for the British player --> annual "GDP" of 360 RP.
I should add to that the same amount annually devoted to R&D in the Atlantic theatre and a lump sum of RP's allotted to Gibraltar and Alexandria, which could be roughly estimated as half the RP dotation of British home and advanced ports in Atlantic scenario.

Some way should be found also to simulate that the British had no real industrial infrastructure in the Med: perhaps it would be enough to concentrate all industrial strength in Gibraltar.

Does this make sense to you?

Cheers

HB

[tony_glazebrook]

So, if 30000 tons of shipping must be sent each month to Gibraltar, I could assume that 30 RP are the monthly resources of the Med theatre for the British player --> annual "GDP" of 360 RP.
I should add to that the same amount annually devoted to R&D in the Atlantic theatre and a lump sum of RP's allotted to Gibraltar and Alexandria, which could be roughly estimated as half the RP dotation of British home and advanced ports in Atlantic scenario.

Some way should be found also to simulate that the British had no real industrial infrastructure in the Med: perhaps it would be enough to concentrate all industrial strength in Gibraltar.

Does this make sense to you?

Cheers

HB

HB - the 30 RP per month requirement was a round figure I came up with for the purposes of the scenario, given the size in it of the British merchant fleet. To be honest, I didn't have reliable figures in front of me regarding the allied merchant fleet size and several other economic parameters. I suspect the real merchant tonnages are quite a bit higher than what I have modelled. But here I traded off some realism for playability. I didn't want players to have to be worrying about hundreds of merchant ships. I just added enough to make for a reasonable number of fair-sized convoys travelling on a good variety of routes.

Regarding the supplies to Russia I did have a high level estimate of the total tonnages shipped to the Russian ports - which I reflected in a slightly scaled down way.

So my 30 RPs per month to Gibraltar (ands similar levels to Murmansk and Arcahgelsk) are not authoritative really; they just add good play balance for the scenario. In a proper multi-theatre campaign, these figures would be more important.