French "Redoubtable" class SSBNs

[Saffron]

Could someone post the individual subs in the Redoubtable class? I can't seem to find this information anywhere on the net, and I know many folks here have books galore that would list them.

Thanks in advance.

[Christian Schwietzke]

Could someone post the individual subs in the Redoubtable class? I can't seem to find this information anywhere on the net, and I know many folks here have books galore that would list them.

Thanks in advance.

Uh... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redoutable_class_submarine




Redoutable (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redoutable_(S_611)) (1971-1991)
Terrible (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Terrible_(S_612)&action=edit&redlink=1) (1973-1996)
Foudroyant (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Foudroyant_(S_610)&action=edit&redlink=1) (1974-1998)
Indomptable (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Indomptable_(S_613)&action=edit&redlink=1) (1976-2003)
Tonnant (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tonnant_(S_614)&action=edit&redlink=1) (1980-1999, first M2 submarine)
Inflexible (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflexible_(S_615)) (1985-2008, first M4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M4_SLBM) submarine)


Or is this information not correct?

[Saffron]

Thanks, Chaos ... I don't know why I couldn't find it. I looked under Wiki but I must've missed it. :confused:

[Christian Schwietzke]

Thanks, Chaos ... I don't know why I couldn't find it. I looked under Wiki but I must've missed it. :confused:

My pleasure, Saffron.

I checked the SSBN article, because I wasn´t sure about how the class´ name was spelled (I don´t speak French). That led me to the article about the current French SSBN class, which contained a link to the ones you asked about.

[Ed Rotondaro]

My pleasure, Saffron.

I checked the SSBN article, because I wasn´t sure about how the class´ name was spelled (I don´t speak French). That led me to the article about the current French SSBN class, which contained a link to the ones you asked about.

Chaos:

Don't worry, you speak German and English good enough!:D

*Ed hides, waiting for incoming salvoes from French members of the forum!*

[Saffron]

Ahhh .... I spelled it "redoubtable" instead of "redoutable" ... I think that's why I wasn't getting anything when I searched for it.

[Christian Schwietzke]

Ahhh .... I spelled it "redoubtable" instead of "redoutable" ... I think that's why I wasn't getting anything when I searched for it.

Just be glad you didn´t research Russian or Polish ship classes... :D

[Saffron]

Just be glad you didn´t research Russian or Polish ship classes... :D

Haha actually I am. I'm putting together a fairly comprehensive database of every nation's ship classes and names for scenario creation in FC and Harpoon.

I can't believe some of the stuff I'm finding. I had no idea that Indonesia had a Sverdlov class CL (that should be added to FC), but it was listed as a "KR" ... no idea what kind of ship a "KR" was and didn't realize it was the Russian designation for "cruiser." I couldn't believe Indonesia had a cruiser, so I didn't make the connection.

[john964]

Haha actually I am. I'm putting together a fairly comprehensive database of every nation's ship classes and names for scenario creation in FC and Harpoon.

I can't believe some of the stuff I'm finding. I had no idea that Indonesia had a Sverdlov class CL (that should be added to FC), but it was listed as a "KR" ... no idea what kind of ship a "KR" was and didn't realize it was the Russian designation for "cruiser." I couldn't believe Indonesia had a cruiser, so I didn't make the connection.A multitude of nations have over the years bought ships from other countries. Remember ARA Belgrono ex USS Phoenix, The ABC states purchased 6 of 8 surviving Brooklyn class light cruisers

[Saffron]

Yep I've noticed that some ships seem to get passed around from country to country like a cigarette at a party. I'm just surprised that some of the smaller powers have managed to get their hands on such large (and usually expensive) ships.

I have another question:

I'm trying to find the names of the two Surapati class frigates operated by Indonesia during the 60's. I'm starting to have a hard time finding out about these older ships via the internet.

I hope no one minds if I continue asking for ship names on this thread. I'm sure more questions will pop up.

Thanks again.

[JMS]

Yep I've noticed that some ships seem to get passed around from country to country like a cigarette at a party. I'm just surprised that some of the smaller powers have managed to get their hands on such large (and usually expensive) ships.

I have another question:

I'm trying to find the names of the two Surapati class frigates operated by Indonesia during the 60's. I'm starting to have a hard time finding out about these older ships via the internet.

I hope no one minds if I continue asking for ship names on this thread. I'm sure more questions will pop up.

Thanks again.

IMAN BONDJOL (250)
SURAPATI (251)

[Christian Schwietzke]

A multitude of nations have over the years bought ships from other countries. Remember ARA Belgrono ex USS Phoenix, The ABC states purchased 6 of 8 surviving Brooklyn class light cruisers

Yeah, and by now I think China owns more Russian carriers than Russia does. :eek:

And they´re not significantly less battleworthy than the Russian one, either...

[Saffron]

Thank you very much, JMS. :)


Now I'm looking for any information on the Indonesian destroyers of the Brawidjaja class. I'm not even sure how many there are.

[JMS]

Thank you very much, JMS. :)


Now I'm looking for any information on the Indonesian destroyers of the Brawidjaja class. I'm not even sure how many there are.

Let's do a thing, make a list of the ships/navies you need and I´ll get the info for you in Conway's. ;)

[Saffron]

Okay ... here are some of them:

Al Maouna class FF operated by Morocco.
Mivtach SAAR 1 PCFG operated by Israel.
Fort Erie FF operated by Canada.
Riazi class MSI (nation unknown).
Jos Sudarso FF (Indonesia)
Provider class AOR (Canada)
Torrens class FF (Australia)
Kakiali class FF (Indonesia)
Beruang class PT (Indonesia)


That's all I have time to list right now ... my lunch is officially over. :(

[john964]

Yep I've noticed that some ships seem to get passed around from country to country like a cigarette at a party. I'm just surprised that some of the smaller powers have managed to get their hands on such large (and usually expensive) ships.

I have another question:

I'm trying to find the names of the two Surapati class frigates operated by Indonesia during the 60's. I'm starting to have a hard time finding out about these older ships via the internet.

I hope no one minds if I continue asking for ship names on this thread. I'm sure more questions will pop up.

Thanks again.Its a great way for smaller nations to pick up large warships cheap. As the US will sometimes give the ship away or sell it for scrapmetal prices to the purchasing country.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Its a great way for smaller nations to pick up large warships cheap. As the US will sometimes give the ship away or sell it for scrapmetal prices to the purchasing country.

John:

Ships were often given as part of a military aid package to allies. I believe the USN gave several Fletcher class as well as Brooklyn class ships to accomodating navies like Greece, Taiwan, Argentina etc.

[john964]

John:

Ships were often given as part of a military aid package to allies. I believe the USN gave several Fletcher class as well as Brooklyn class ships to accomodating navies like Greece, Taiwan, Argentina etc.Ed, 6 of the 8 Brooklyns went to the ABC states the rest were scraped.

[Christian Schwietzke]

John:

Ships were often given as part of a military aid package to allies. I believe the USN gave several Fletcher class as well as Brooklyn class ships to accomodating navies like Greece, Taiwan, Argentina etc.

The FRAM destroyers? Those are/were Fletcher, Sumner and Gearing class ships. At least that´s how I remember the Harpoon Commander´s Edition database entries.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Ed, 6 of the 8 Brooklyns went to the ABC states the rest were scraped.

John:

I assume (always a danger) that ABC means Argentina, Brazil and Chile?

[Mike Malanaphy]

The FRAM destroyers? Those are/were Fletcher, Sumner and Gearing class ships. At least that´s how I remember the Harpoon Commander´s Edition database entries.

Hi Chaos,

The US had such a huge surplus of destroyers post WW II, it couldn't jhustify bying new DDs for post war threats. You have the Fleet Rehabilitation And Modernization program used to modify a number of Fletecher and Sumner/Gearing for various missons including picket and ASW. A lot of Fletchers were made into ASW destroyers losing number 2 5" mount for the weapon alpha rocket launcher, later some lost number 3 and four to make a small flight deck for DASH, the remote controlled ASW herlicopter. A number of Sumner/Gearing lost number 2 mount as well for hedgehogs and weight compensation. Depending on the modification, you could have a FRAM I or II. Quite a number of variations and many then sold to our allies. An old copy of Janes from the era would list them.