WCDB SCENARIOS THREAD

[Warship NWS]

This thread is for posting scenarios for WCDB. All comments or feedback regarding the scenarios should be posted seperated from this thread.

Thanks.

[Ed Rotondaro]

This thread is for posting scenarios for WCDB. All comments or feedback regarding the scenarios should be posted seperated from this thread.

Thanks.


Here are the first of several historical WWII scenarios for WCDB. Most are centered on the Med with a few Pacific battles as well. I'm going in alpha aorder from my files.

[Ed Rotondaro]

This thread is for posting scenarios for WCDB. All comments or feedback regarding the scenarios should be posted seperated from this thread.

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More scenarios for WCDB. Again a mix of Med, Pacific and North Atlantic.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Hi:

More historical scenarios for WCDB for WWII.

[Ed Rotondaro]

More scenarios for WCDB WWII.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Continued loading of scenarios for WCDB WWII.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Loading the historicals for your enjoyment and or comments.

[Ed Rotondaro]

The last of the historical scenarios and some hypotheticals for WCDB WWII.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Here are scenarios from WWI, mostly created by Robert.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Here are some additional WWI scenarios including some hypotheticals.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Here are the rest of the WCDB scenarios for WWI and the Russo-Japanese War.

[asnrobert]

Here are some additional Russo-Japanese War scenarios. The last one, "Perfidious Albion" is a hypothetical scenario between Britain and Russia that takes place after the Dogger Bank incident (where Russian ships fired on British trawlers, thinking them to be Japanese torpedo boats).

[asnrobert]

Here some additional historical WW1 scenarios.

[asnrobert]

More WW1 historical scenarios.

[asnrobert]

Hypothetical scenarios involving the battlecruiser Goeben.

[asnrobert]

Hypotheticals involving the hunt for Von Spee's squadron.

[asnrobert]

More Von Spee hypotheticals.

[asnrobert]

WW1 hypotheticals.

[asnrobert]

more WW1 hypotheticals.

[asnrobert]

This was a hypothetical mini-campaign between Japan and Great Britain taking place in 1913 that was posted by one of our members (I forget who). The scenarios are to be played in a particular sequence depending on who wins each scenario. The last scenario (and the campaign tree) will be posted in the next note.

[asnrobert]

The last scenario of the mini-campaign, and the campaign tree.

[asnrobert]

here are some historical WW2 scenarios.

[asnrobert]

More historical WW2 scenarios

[asnrobert]

More historical scenarios.

[asnrobert]

The last of the historical scenarios.

[asnrobert]

WW2 hypotheticals...

[asnrobert]

More WW2 hypotheticals...

[asnrobert]

Still more WW2 hypotheticals...

[asnrobert]

Yet more WW2 hypotheticals...

[asnrobert]

WW2 hypotheticals continued...

[asnrobert]

WW2 hypotheticals...

[asnrobert]

The last of the WW2 hypotheticals (I think).

I believe Ed and I got most of the scenarios that were posted on the old forum here. If we left any out, feel free to post them.

[Warship NWS]

Attached is an alternate Samar scenario for WCDB. In this case, Kurtia runs into Seventh Fleet Bombardment Group instead of the Taffey's.

Enjoy,

Kurt Schofield
NWS Team

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[asnrobert]

A while back someone created a scenario for the old WC-WW2 involving a hypothetical battle between the USN and KM in 1946. I recreated it for WCDB almost exactly as it was in the original, except I increased the KM crew quality from Fair to Average, and replaced the 11" gunned Gneisenau with the 15" version.

[themattcurtis]

Hypothetical battle with Troubridge's squadron of armored cruisers tangling with Austria-Hungary's 3rd Battleship Squadron. A-H has a slight edge --- 20 pts to 19.

[asnrobert]

In this hypothetical scenario, Admiral Nagumo presses on and engages the US fleet in a night surface battle. I recall seeing a similar scenario for Fighting Steel on the wargamer.com website years ago when I first purchased the game.

[asnrobert]

In the fall of 1940 during the Italian assault on Greece, the aged Italian cruisers Taranto and Bari (The ex-German WW1 cruisers Strassburg and Pillau were used off the Adriatic coast for bombardment and mine-laying missions. In this hypothetical scenario, they are challenged by a trio of Greek destroyers.

I first got the idea for this scenario when playing the Italians in a randomly generated scenario. One of my ships was the Bari, which looked markedly different from the typical Italian CL, and somewhat older, too. Doing some research online (look here (http://regiamarina.net/arsenals/ships_it/obs_cruisers/obs_crui_us.htm)) , I found out about her and the Taranto (which I was happy to discover was also in WCDB), and decided to create a "what-if?" scenario pitting them against the Greek Navy. Of course, there are no Greek ships in WCDB so I had to proxy them with ships that were closest to their capabilities. I used a French Bourrasque class destroyer for the Ydra, a British A/B/C/D class for the Vasilissa Olga, and a Wickes-1940 for the old Aetos. For those who are curious, more info on the Greek Navy in WW2 can be found at the site below:

http://www.warshipsww2.eu/typy.php?language=E&period=&stat=GRE

[asnrobert]

During the battle of the Coral Sea, a force under Admiral Crace consisting of two Australian and one American cruiser plus 2 US destroyers was operating with Admiral Fletcher's carrier force. Fletcher detached them, hoping they could engage the Japanese in a night surface battle, but nothing came of it. In this hypothetical scenario, Admiral Crace's force encounters Admiral Goto's cruisers screening the Port Moresby landing force.

[asnrobert]

On August 8, 1943, an Italian force of cruisers and destroyers attempted to disrupt the Sicily invasion force, but broke off when they reporting seeing "three cruisers" (actually, two cruisers- USS Philadelphia and USS Savannah- plus two destroyers).

This scenario was adapted from the scenario in Destroyer Command.

[asnrobert]

Hypothetical scenario where all four Kriegsmarine battleships encounter two QE and two R class battleships and their escort. Adapted from the Fighting Steel scenario created by Grant Michaud.

[admiralscheer1916]

Here's a big one from WWI, Dogger Bank; and a what-if scenario based on Dogger Bank.

Admiral Reinhardt Scheer, Kaiserliche Marine

[admiralscheer1916]

Three from WWII. All credit to Ed Rotondaro who's North Cape Scenario two are based on.

Admiral Reinhardt Scheer, Kaiserliche Marine

[asnrobert]

On another forum recently there was a discussion about what would have happened if the HMAS Sydney had met the pocket battleship Admiral Scheer instead of the disguised raider Kormoran. Someone mentioned that the only other ships available to the British were three old 'D' class light cruisers at Singapore. So in this hypothetical scenario, the Sydney is able to shadow the Scheer until they are able to arrive and help out.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Hi:

We've been batting this question around as to which Treaty Heavy Cruiser would prevail, so here's a nice little scenario to let you decide. I opted for dawn in 1942 with crew quality as good and sea conditions light. Two CAs per side. Have fun.

[asnrobert]

To scenarios that pit the biggest BBs from both World Wars against each other. The 1918 scenario features 4 British QEs versus 4 Baden class battleships (historically, only two of the German ships were completed; Sachsen and Wurttemburg were scrapped incomplete after the war). The 1945 scenario has four Iowas and four Yamatos slugging it out.

[asnrobert]

This is a scenario depicting the 1st naval battle of Guadalcanal on November 13, 1942.
While I believe there already is a scenario for this battle on the forum, I did this one slightly differently. For one thing, I selected both sides as surprised as historically the two forces blundered into each other. As a result, the shooting doesn't start until the opposing sides are about 4,000 yards apart, so you get the close range knife-fight that occurred historically. Also, instead of placing the US destroyers in a separate division like they are in the existing scenario, I mixed them in with the cruisers to more accurately represent the US deployment, which was in a single line with destroyers at the head and rear (in the game I had to break it down into 2 divisions due to the 8-ship limit).
Crew quality is average for both sides, except for the US ships Helena and Fletcher which have a Good rating due to having slightly newer radar, and the Japanese destroyer Amatsukaze, which was commanded by the superb Japanese captain Tameichi Hara.

Interestingly, the couple times I've played this scenario I've come away with a draw (regardless of which side I play).

[asnrobert]

Awhile back I posted a scenario pitting an Alaska class "large cruiser against a 15-inch armed Gneisenau. Recently I decided to create a number of similar scenarios pitting an Alaska class against the BCs of other nations- Germany's Scharnhorst (historical 11" guns), Britain's Hood, Japan's Kongo, and France's Dunkerque. The exception is with the Italian Navy- I didn't think either the Cavour or Andrea Doria class BCs would be much of a challenge, so I substituted a Littorio class BB instead (interestingly, both the Littorio and Alaska have a point value of 18 in the scenario, so it's dead even in that regard).

I find the Alaska's ace-in-the-hole to be her F3 radar. With it she can stay out of visual range while pounding away at an enemy with impunity. Turn the radar off for a more challenging fight.

[asnrobert]

Plans are to eventually add the ships of the Spanish-American War to WCDB. However, being the impatient sort that I am, decided to go ahead and recreate the two key naval battles (Manila Bay and Santiago) using the ships currently available. I used ships from all the navies available. Some ships were harder to proxy than others (for example, the Oregon and Indiana have 13" guns, something no ship in the game has; the Spanish AC Cristobol Colon was built in Italy to the same design as their Giuseppe Garibaldi, bu her main guns were never installed), but I figured I came close enough to suffice. Side 1 is the American fleet, Side 2 is the Spanish. I gave the Spanish Poor quality crews to represent the meager training and poor material condition of the Spanish warships, the American crews are Average (as their shooting was adequate but not great).

[asnrobert]

A while back when doing some research for Russo-Japanese War scenarios for WCDB, I happened across some info on the Sino-Japanese War of 1894 (something I knew little about, particularly the battle of the Yalu River. I thought this would be an excellent scenario for WCDB, and while the Chinese fleet isn't yet available in the game, I figured I could proxy the rest with the available ships. I found the naval portion of the Sino-Japanese War interesting since it was the first battle between modern ironclads. On paper the Chinese Navy was quite formidable, with 2 modern battleships, which Japan lacked (except for the old ironclad Fuso, plus a number of modern cruisers, and many western observers believed the Chinese would be victorious. However, the Chinese navy (and government) was rife with corruption- many shells supplied to the navy were filled with sawdust instead of powder, and some of the ship's guns had been sold on the black market. Training was also rather poor, and it is believed that the Chinese ships were more prone to burning due to multiple layers of paint and varnish.
When creating the Yalu River battle, the Japanese side was relatively easy since most of the ships were already in the game. The only exception was the old ironclad Fuso, for which I used the Russian Admiral Ushakov, which came closest in terms of armament, and the Tatsuta for the dispatch vessel Akagi. On the Chinese side, the battleships were already in the Japanese database (Chenyen class, the Chen Yuen was captured by the Japanese in 1894 and served during the RJW). The rest of the fleet was a bit tougher. Available information was a bit spotty (most of the technical data I obtained from Wikipedia), and variations in spelling of ship names among the different web sites made figuring what ship was what a bit tougher. I was planning to use the ships from other navies, but all the Chinese ships were proxied by ships in the Japanese databases, since theirs were closest in terms of size and armament. Chinese crew quality is poor, to reflect training (and the materiel deficiencies mentioned above) while the Japanese have good crew quality.
In the process of creating this scenario I also came across a small naval skirmish named Pung-do, which ignited the war. Three Japanese cruisers encountered the Chinese cruiser Tsi Yuen and two gunboats escorting the British transport Kowshing, which had been chartered by the Chinese to transport soldiers. The battle commenced when the Chinese refused to salute the Japanese vessels. In ensuing action one gunboat was run aground and blew up, and the other was captured. The Kowshing was sunk by the Japanese after she had been taken over by the Chinese soldiers on board. The Tsi Yuen was hit 400 times, but escaped after a 100 mile running gun battle. For the gunboats, I used the Yaeyama for one, since that seemed to be the closest in armament I could find. For the other, I could find no info other than that she was 572 tons, so I used the Tatsuta for her.
Japanese crews are Good, and I gave the Chinese fair crews, since they (at least the cruiser) fought fairly well.
In both scenarios the Japanese are side 1 and the Chinese are side 2.
For more information on the battles, ships and the Sino-Japanese War in general, check out these web pages:
http://www.navyandmarine.org/ondeck/1894YaluBattle.htm (this site also has a map of the battle, attached below)
http://sinojapanesewar.com/
http://www.wtj.com/games/battlefleet_1900/ships_cn.htm

[Ed Rotondaro]

Hi:

We've been debating possible alternatives to the epic surface battle at Guadalcanal in Novermber 1942. One suggestion was that the CA Pensacola replaces the two Atlanta class CLAAs. Another (my suggestion) was that Admiral Halsey releases one of his escorting BBs from his carrier task force (of course USS Washington under Admiral Willis Lee). I've chosen good crews for the IJN mainly due to their practice with night fighting (not many of the historical ships had seen night combat so far.) I've made the Washington crack based on her rigorous training. San Fransisco and Helena and Laffey are rated as good since they have seen action already. All other US ships are average. Conditions are based on research from Command at Sea's Rising Sun and Vincent O'Hara's book "The US Navy Against the Axis". I made some adjustments to IJN ship deployment to reflect the way they handled destroyers(mainly including the Nagara as a destroyer leader). This allowed me to fit the entire IJN task force into the game including the picket screen that eventually entered the battle. Feel free to modify as you please.

[Warship NWS]

This thread is closed but will remain available for players and NWS Team members to help update scenarios to WCNAW standards. Thanks.