California Fires

[Ed Rotondaro]

Hi Dennis:

Are you in any danger from these fires? I'm praying not.

[old_pop2000]

Hi Dennis:

Are you in any danger from these fires? I'm praying not.

Nope, not this time. Big Sur is on Coast Hwy 1 around Carmel, south of San Francisco about 100 miles south.

Thanks for the concern.

[paladin5]

Nope, not this time. Big Sur is on Coast Hwy 1 around Carmel, south of San Francisco about 100 miles south.

Thanks for the concern.


*wonders whats makes any sane person would want to live in callifornia*

[old_pop2000]

*wonders whats makes any sane person would want to live in callifornia*

Let's see:

It's not flat, so there are mountains, sea shores, deserts, conifer tree forests.

No flooding, no tornedoes

There is more to do, than just watch the corn grow.:D

[Ed Rotondaro]

Nope, not this time. Big Sur is on Coast Hwy 1 around Carmel, south of San Francisco about 100 miles south.

Thanks for the concern.

Dennis:

That's good news. The video of the fires is very scary.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Let's see:

It's not flat, so there are mountains, sea shores, deserts, conifer tree forests.

No flooding, no tornedoes

There is more to do, than just watch the corn grow.:D

Earthquakes, mud slides, expensive houses, too many crowded highways. Gotta love the West coast!:)

[john964]

Let's see:

It's not flat, so there are mountains, sea shores, deserts, conifer tree forests.

No flooding, no tornedoes

There is more to do, than just watch the corn grow.:D
Ah the joy's of California the Cereal State Shake and Bake, slip sliding away, off beat laws and politics

[old_pop2000]

Ah the joy's of California the Cereal State Shake and Bake, slip sliding away, off beat laws and politics

Off beat laws? We have led the nation in laws in many areas. We aren't sliding away, just sliding past each other, that's different. Pretty soon, LA and SF will be suburbs, that's cool. How many states can you drive to a desert, spend the day, then drive to the mountains, then drive to the beach. All in one day travel. Best of all worlds. I wish most of you turistas would go home, though and leave it to us natives.:D We even have our own oil supply, we are actually self sufficient, if we want to be.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Off beat laws? We have led the nation in laws in many areas. We aren't sliding away, just sliding past each other, that's different. Pretty soon, LA and SF will be suburbs, that's cool. How many states can you drive to a desert, spend the day, then drive to the mountains, then drive to the beach. All in one day travel. Best of all worlds. I wish most of you turistas would go home, though and leave it to us natives.:D We even have our own oil supply, we are actually self sufficient, if we want to be.

I envy your wineries mainly, that and the beach.

[paladin5]

Let's see:

It's not flat, so there are mountains, sea shores, deserts, conifer tree forests.

No flooding, no tornedoes

There is more to do, than just watch the corn grow.:D



Hey Iowa isn't all that flat.

I live our floods and tordanoes, however forest fires, earthquakes, landslides, ect, ect scare the crap out of me

Corn isn't the only thing we watch. We also have soybeans to. :D

Oh and it doesn't cost a fortune to live in Iowa. I live quite comfortably on less then 30k per year. Try doing that in California.

[keschofield]

I'm a native born Californian that's lived all over the US (Illinois, New York, Connecticut, Maryland, and Georgia) and even in the Netherlands. I've travelled to all of the "lower 48" states. All the places I've lived have much to recommend them.

However, California (specifically the swath of land running SW from Livermore through San Jose and Los Gatos, and on to Santa Cruz) will always be my home. Many of California's "natural" problems are a result of us Californians letting too many "outsiders" in (mud slides, traffic, cost of living).:D

Of course earthquakes are what non-Californians bring up most. During one 13 year stretch of living there (1955-1968), I can only recall one small earthquake. Back then we thought of earthquakes as the cost of living in paradise. My last home was on 2.25 acres of redwoods in the coast range with a distant view of the Pacific. Climate was wonderful (60's to low 80's temps) except for December through February when it rained all of the time (almost literally).

I giggle every time I hear someone talk about the west coast falling into the ocean. As Dennis has so cogently described, that cannot happen - simple 8th grade Earth Science. Dennis is also right about what IS going on. San Francisco and its environs are on a march south while "La La Land" is on a march north. They'll wave at each as they pass by ... in about 10,000 - 20,000 years.

If my wife weren't such a "dyed in the wool" southerner who won't leave the south, and I could afford it, I'd move back to my old home turf in less than a NY minute. Ed knows how quick that is!:D

[Ed Rotondaro]

Hey Iowa isn't all that flat.

I live our floods and tordanoes, however forest fires, earthquakes, landslides, ect, ect scare the crap out of me

Corn isn't the only thing we watch. We also have soybeans to. :D

Oh and it doesn't cost a fortune to live in Iowa. I live quite comfortably on less then 30k per year. Try doing that in California.

Michael:

I don't know about tornadoes, they kill more people than forest fires or landslides.

[Ed Rotondaro]

I'm a native born Californian that's lived all over the US (Illinois, New York, Connecticut, Maryland, and Georgia) and even in the Netherlands. I've travelled to all of the "lower 48" states. All the places I've lived have much to recommend them.

However, California (specifically the swath of land running SW from Livermore through San Jose and Los Gatos, and on to Santa Cruz) will always be my home. Many of California's "natural" problems are a result of us Californians letting too many "outsiders" in (mud slides, traffic, cost of living).:D

Of course earthquakes are what non-Californians bring up most. During one 13 year stretch of living there (1955-1968), I can only recall one small earthquake. Back then we thought of earthquakes as the cost of living in paradise. My last home was on 2.25 acres of redwoods in the coast range with a distant view of the Pacific. Climate was wonderful (60's to low 80's temps) except for December through February when it rained all of the time (almost literally).

I giggle every time I hear someone talk about the west coast falling into the ocean. As Dennis has so cogently described, that cannot happen - simple 8th grade Earth Science. Dennis is also right about what IS going on. San Francisco and its environs are on a march south while "La La Land" is on a march north. They'll wave at each as they pass by ... in about 10,000 - 20,000 years.

If my wife weren't such a "dyed in the wool" southerner who won't leave the south, and I could afford it, I'd move back to my old home turf in less than a NY minute. Ed knows how quick that is!:D

Kurt:

I didn't know that it rained like that in California. That sounds more like Oregon or Washington. We have had a stretch of Georgia recently (90 degrees very humid), but it broke last night. It is supposed to return on Saturday just in time for my son's soccer tournament. Oh joy.

[keschofield]

Kurt:

I didn't know that it rained like that in California. That sounds more like Oregon or Washington. We have had a stretch of Georgia recently (90 degrees very humid), but it broke last night. It is supposed to return on Saturday just in time for my son's soccer tournament. Oh joy.


It used to rain like that in Northern California. Dennis and the others down in the southern half of the state don't get near as much rain I believe. As Dennis pointed out, any type of geographic feature that can be found in the US can be found in California (with the weather to match) from below sea level desert to mountains with at least one glacier.

Here in Georgia we're stuck in "August" like weather pattern- 90+ degrees w/high humidity during the day followed by heavy thunder showers in the late afternoon and early evening.

Good luck to your son w/soccer on Saturday. I remember those days fondly.

[Ed Rotondaro]

It used to rain like that in Northern California. Dennis and the others down in the southern half of the state don't get near as much rain I believe. As Dennis pointed out, any type of geographic feature that can be found in the US can be found in California (with the weather to match) from below sea level desert to mountains with at least one glacier.

Here in Georgia we're stuck in "August" like weather pattern- 90+ degrees w/high humidity during the day followed by heavy thunder showers in the late afternoon and early evening.

Good luck to your son w/soccer on Saturday. I remember those days fondly.

Kurt:

Isn't true that California is really a collection of micro-climates? Still it is a beautiful state and I can see why people love it.

[asnrobert]

Ah the joy's of California the Cereal State Shake and Bake, slip sliding away, off beat laws and politics

When I was in boot camp, I heard California referred to as the Granola State- the land of fruits, flakes and nuts. :D

[Kyle Holgate]

Earthquakes, mud slides, expensive houses, too many crowded highways. Gotta love the West coast!:)

I'm sure there are no expensive houses or crowded highways in New York :rolleyes:. :p

[john964]

I'm sure there are no expensive houses or crowded highways in New York :rolleyes:. :pI prefer eastern Washington. Earthquakes what earthquakes, the ocasinonal forrest fire or wild fire, no riots, no mud slides, almost no floods. Not to hot in the summer not to cold in the winter humiditity dosen't get to bad. Crime is low as compared to cities of similer size.

[djcyclone]

Michael:

I don't know about tornadoes, they kill more people than forest fires or landslides.



The thing with tornadoes is that we know how to build houses that are imune to tornadoes. When I do build my house I intend for to be a cave home as they are called out here. No part of the house is above ground and so it is completly safe from tornadoes. The only way a tornado could damage a cave home was if it was to pick up an object and that object landed directly on the home. The chances of that happening are worth the risk.

Tornadoes rarely touch down in large cities. That has something to do with the heat that is put off by the roofs after a full day in the sun. I do not know all of the details behind that science, but I remember the tornado of 2006 that hit Springfield, and they indicated on the news that it was the first tornado to actually touch down in the city. All other storms simply damage stuff on the outskirts of the city with the high winds, and hail.

Forest Fires are just people building their homes in the wrong place, the same as mud slides. Do not build you house on the face of a hill. I know the forest is pretty and all, but it does catch fire from time to time. I will stick with the oceans of corn.

[Ed Rotondaro]

When I was in boot camp, I heard California referred to as the Granola State- the land of fruits, flakes and nuts. :D

Robert:

Careful now, Old Pop will come and get ya!:D

[Ed Rotondaro]

I'm sure there are no expensive houses or crowded highways in New York :rolleyes:. :p

Kyle:

Of course you are correct, but to give you an example my house in upstate NY in a very affluent town cost me $176,000 in 2001. It's four bedrooms, 2 1/2 baths, two car garage, large deck, etc. on 1/3 of an acre. That house in sunny California goes for over one million easy. Also unless I'm near NYC, the highways while busy only crawl in rain or snow or an accident. The freeways in LA always crawl. Ask Kurt about real estate and traffic some time LOL!:D

[Ed Rotondaro]

I prefer eastern Washington. Earthquakes what earthquakes, the ocasinonal forrest fire or wild fire, no riots, no mud slides, almost no floods. Not to hot in the summer not to cold in the winter humiditity dosen't get to bad. Crime is low as compared to cities of similer size.

John:

I've heard similar good things about Portland Oregon where Kyle resides. My kind of country.

[Ed Rotondaro]

The thing with tornadoes is that we know how to build houses that are imune to tornadoes. When I do build my house I intend for to be a cave home as they are called out here. No part of the house is above ground and so it is completly safe from tornadoes. The only way a tornado could damage a cave home was if it was to pick up an object and that object landed directly on the home. The chances of that happening are worth the risk.

Tornadoes rarely touch down in large cities. That has something to do with the heat that is put off by the roofs after a full day in the sun. I do not know all of the details behind that science, but I remember the tornado of 2006 that hit Springfield, and they indicated on the news that it was the first tornado to actually touch down in the city. All other storms simply damage stuff on the outskirts of the city with the high winds, and hail.

Forest Fires are just people building their homes in the wrong place, the same as mud slides. Do not build you house on the face of a hill. I know the forest is pretty and all, but it does catch fire from time to time. I will stick with the oceans of corn.

DJ:

That is interesting to note about tornadoes not hitting large cities. Must be true about how the city affects the local climate. Around here it's more winter than any other season that can bring bad weather, although we get some flooding in the spring as snow melts and rain comes down. Mainly near the river valleys.