Science and Technology Articles

[old_pop2000]

I've posted some articles on science and technology which seems to be well received by everyone. So I created this thread to contain them all instead of creating a new thread each time. I hope that this is more effecient for every one.:)

[old_pop2000]

Article on the evidence of an eclipse in the Odyssey.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080624/sc_afp/usastronomyhistoryliteraturegreecehomer;_ylt=Atp6V tQrv2fLuBVzjwZloHUE1vAI

I wonder if the Argentines are bored?:confused:

[Ed Rotondaro]

I've posted some articles on science and technology which seems to be well received by everyone. So I created this thread to contain them all instead of creating a new thread each time. I hope that this is more effecient for every one.:)

Dennis:

That's a good idea. I was watching a show on the History Channel the other night that was speculating on the great die off of the dinosaurs. The hypothesis that was being touted was the asteriod strike would cause a series of huge hurricanes with 500mph winds that would spread fires and raise temperatures on average 10 degrees. I think they called them mega hurricanes, but since no one has observed one, they only exist as a theoretical act of nature. They also had episodes on super volcanoes as well. I think the overriding theme was what form would Armaggedon take.

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http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/25/1167531.aspx

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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25371869/

[Ed Rotondaro]

http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/06/25/1167531.aspx

Dennis:

Now that was an interesting article. I gotta watch his show.

[old_pop2000]

Now even the lowly cocoa bean is safe.:mad:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25378752/

[old_pop2000]

Say goodbye, XP, Goodbye XP!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25353868/

[old_pop2000]

http://www.abcmontana.com/news/state/21603284.html

[Ed Rotondaro]

Now even the lowly cocoa bean is safe.:mad:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25378752/

Dennis:

Anything that makes chocolate taste better must good right?:rolleyes:

[Ed Rotondaro]

Say goodbye, XP, Goodbye XP!!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25353868/

As always Big Brother aka MicroSoft knows whats best for us.:mad:

[old_pop2000]

Dennis:

Anything that makes chocolate taste better must good right?:rolleyes:

According to my wife and son, that's true.

[old_pop2000]

Volcanic Eruptions under the Arctic

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=nw20080626090726755C484155&click_id=588&set_id=1

[Ed Rotondaro]

Volcanic Eruptions under the Arctic

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?art_id=nw20080626090726755C484155&click_id=588&set_id=1

Dennis:

I wish they had included some pictures with that article. I wonder how the gases released affect the ocean?

[old_pop2000]

http://geology.about.com/b/2008/07/03/the-terminal-clovis-event-bandwagon-gains-steam.htm

Article on a possible comet terminating the Clovis people in NA.

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Article from NASA Earth Observatory on the possibility of large methane releases

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/MediaAlerts/2008/2008052826907.html


As if we don't have enough to worry about.:eek:

[old_pop2000]

Interesting piece on the Iceland Magma Chambers:

http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_releases/icelands_magma_chambers

[old_pop2000]

Although this isn't entirely science, it is connected with DNA so I thought it was interesting.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/17/russia.anniversary/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[Mike Malanaphy]

http://geology.about.com/b/2008/07/03/the-terminal-clovis-event-bandwagon-gains-steam.htm

Article on a possible comet terminating the Clovis people in NA.

Hi Dennis,

In college geology, we learned about the early theory of "catastrophism", the belief of major events responsible for shaping the Earth versus the slower "gradualism" over time. Once discredited, it seems to be making a comeback with all of the cosmic catastrophes we've learned aqbout in the last 30 years.

The peopling of North America has always been a fascinating topic for me. There is so little physical evdence found as in Europe. One almost has to wonder if between the ice ages, if neanderthals ever made it to the New World via Siberia.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Although this isn't entirely science, it is connected with DNA so I thought it was interesting.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/07/17/russia.anniversary/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Dennis:

Very interesting. Now I will be looking up Grand Duchess Maria to see how she was related to the Romanovs.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Hi Dennis,

In college geology, we learned about the early theory of "catastrophism", the belief of major events responsible for shaping the Earth versus the slower "gradualism" over time. Once discredited, it seems to be making a comeback with all of the cosmic catastrophes we've learned aqbout in the last 30 years.

The peopling of North America has always been a fascinating topic for me. There is so little physical evdence found as in Europe. One almost has to wonder if between the ice ages, if neanderthals ever made it to the New World via Siberia.

Mike:

The history channel often has speculative episodes concerning such disasters that unfortunately seem more sensational than well researched.

[old_pop2000]

Hi Dennis,

In college geology, we learned about the early theory of "catastrophism", the belief of major events responsible for shaping the Earth versus the slower "gradualism" over time. Once discredited, it seems to be making a comeback with all of the cosmic catastrophes we've learned aqbout in the last 30 years.

The peopling of North America has always been a fascinating topic for me. There is so little physical evdence found as in Europe. One almost has to wonder if between the ice ages, if neanderthals ever made it to the New World via Siberia.

I remember studying the Theory of Continental Drift, not Plate tectonics. It was not an entirely proven theory yet. They were still capturing the magnetic data from the oceans.

It is interesting to see that catastrophism is making a comeback, with the new data being discovered.

I don't believe Neaderthals ever made it to NA, however, with the pace of discoveries, who knows.

[Mike Malanaphy]

I remember studying the Theory of Continental Drift, not Plate tectonics. It was not an entirely proven theory yet. They were still capturing the magnetic data from the oceans.

It is interesting to see that catastrophism is making a comeback, with the new data being discovered.

I don't believe Neaderthals ever made it to NA, however, with the pace of discoveries, who knows.

Hi Dennis,

Same here. I saw the History Channel show "How the Earth was Made". What ever happened to Gondwanaland? :) I found the "Snow Balll Earth" scenario very interesting, but pretty speculative.

[old_pop2000]

Hi Dennis,

Same here. I saw the History Channel show "How the Earth was Made". What ever happened to Gondwanaland? :) I found the "Snow Balll Earth" scenario very interesting, but pretty speculative.

Mike:
Gondwanaland was the first super-continent around 200-300 million years ago, the second was Pangea. It's still there.

I also enjoyed the idea of the snow ball earth. I am looking for scientific papers on google for it, maybe some books.

[Mike Malanaphy]

Mike:
Gondwanaland was the first super-continent around 200-300 million years ago, the second was Pangea. It's still there.

I also enjoyed the idea of the snow ball earth. I am looking for scientific papers on google for it, maybe some books.

Hi Dennis,

Interesting, the earliest supercontinent around 900 million years ago they called Rodina. It's formation triggered the "Snowball Earth" which they opined lasted about 200 million years. The second one was called Pangea and was about 350 million years ago on their timeline. A large erutpion of a "mantle volcano" in Siberia poured out huge amonts of lavas and gasses gets the blame for the Cambrian extinction. Overall, this is one of the better science shows I've seen. An infomative mix of fact, theory, and graphics for a very compelling presentation.

[old_pop2000]

Hi Dennis,

Interesting, the earliest supercontinent around 900 million years ago they called Rodina. It's formation triggered the "Snowball Earth" which they opined lasted about 200 million years. The second one was called Pangea and was about 350 million years ago on their timeline. A large erutpion of a "mantle volcano" in Siberia poured out huge amonts of lavas and gasses gets the blame for the Cambrian extinction. Overall, this is one of the better science shows I've seen. An infomative mix of fact, theory, and graphics for a very compelling presentation.


Gondwanaland was actually Africa, Antarctica, SA, Madagascar and India and Arabia, in one southern super continent present actually twice. Once around 300 million years ago and once around 200 million years ago.

[old_pop2000]

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1977&from=rss

[Ed Rotondaro]

http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1977&from=rss

Dennis:

I wonder if that will affect the Alaska king crab fishing?

[old_pop2000]

Dennis:

I wonder if that will affect the Alaska king crab fishing?

Depends on how far the ash and pumice cloud moves. Dutch Harbor might have some issues, its only 60 miles east. Aircraft will be rerouted, the ash is rising high enough to affect transpacific airline routes.

[old_pop2000]

Beware of bug sprays!!:p

N.J. man blows up apartment spraying for bugs

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25784847/

Sorry, this one was too funny to miss.

[john964]

Beware of bug sprays!!:p

N.J. man blows up apartment spraying for bugs

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25784847/

Sorry, this one was too funny to miss.
In 1992 a woman in LA set off 6 bug foggers and forgot to turn of the pilot light to her water heater. They found debrie from her home as far away as 300yds. IIRC 1 fogger is sufficant for a 1000sqft home

[old_pop2000]

In 1992 a woman in LA set off 6 bug foggers and forgot to turn of the pilot light to her water heater. They found debrie from her home as far away as 300yds. IIRC 1 fogger is sufficant for a 1000sqft home

And we give these people drivers licenses and 4000 pound plus cars that can go 100 MPH. Life comes at you real fast, these days. :eek::p:p

[john964]

And we give these people drivers licenses and 4000 pound plus cars that can go 100 MPH. Life comes at you real fast, these days. :eek::p:pWhen I was in HS we had a gas explosen in the neiborhood. A man and his wife came home from being gone for the weekend when they walked in the door they smelled gas. The husband sent the wife next door to call the FD and the power company. While he went to appairently find the source of the gas. They were smart they didn't turn on any lights or such. When the husband went to enter the basement it was dark so he dug out his Zippo and lit it in order to see in the dark basement with expected results. The house was blown to bits, they found pieces of it half a mile away.

[old_pop2000]

For those of you interested in the snowball earth theory and further information, here is a link that you might enjoy.

http://www.snowballearth.org/index.html

[Ed Rotondaro]

When I was in HS we had a gas explosen in the neiborhood. A man and his wife came home from being gone for the weekend when they walked in the door they smelled gas. The husband sent the wife next door to call the FD and the power company. While he went to appairently find the source of the gas. They were smart they didn't turn on any lights or such. When the husband went to enter the basement it was dark so he dug out his Zippo and lit it in order to see in the dark basement with expected results. The house was blown to bits, they found pieces of it half a mile away.

John:


You think he would have used a flashlight.

[Ed Rotondaro]

For those of you interested in the snowball earth theory and further information, here is a link that you might enjoy.

http://www.snowballearth.org/index.html

Dennis:

To call the subject complex is the understatement of the century.

[old_pop2000]

Dennis:

To call the subject complex is the understatement of the century.


The subject is complex, the data sparse and subject to interpretation. We know from our computer models, that it was theoretically possible, but the geologic record of such an event will be destroyed by later events. But it is interesting to contemplate. Our models are not perfect, since we don't necessarily understand all the chemistry involved.

[old_pop2000]

I've found an interesting, informative website concerning the tracing of DNA evidence of man's journey out of Africa. However, I have been reticent to post this because this is such a contentious issue with many people. I do so in the hope that we all recognize that this is one source of evidence and theory, but not the only one.

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/stephenoppenheimer/

I hope all of you, will take the time to enjoy the presentation on this website and consider the information.


Thanks

[old_pop2000]

We had a 5.4 Mag. earthquake at 11:42 in LA. The epicenter was 3 miles WSW of LA in the Chino Hills. It was centered 8 miles down. There have been about four aftershocks.
A 5.4 can generate light damage, radars at LAX are down, but it probably will just scare the crap out of everyone and keep them on edge with the numerous decreasing intensity aftershocks.

Of course, sometimes, these can be the preliminary earthquakes to a very large earthquake. As the stress is released on this section of a fault, the pressure on others can be increased. It is similiar to row of dominos. Only time will tell.

It was felt possibly in northern San Diego county, but not in my town out east.

It's rocken N rollin in Southern Cal again.:eek::D

[keschofield]

We had a 5.4 Mag. earthquake at 11:42 in LA. The epicenter was 3 miles WSW of LA in the Chino Hills. It was centered 8 miles down. There have been about four aftershocks.
A 5.4 can generate light damage, radars at LAX are down, but it probably will just scare the crap out of everyone and keep them on edge with the numerous decreasing intensity aftershocks.

Of course, sometimes, these can be the preliminary earthquakes to a very large earthquake. As the stress is released on this section of a fault, the pressure on others can be increased. It is similiar to row of dominos. Only time will tell.

It was felt possibly in northern San Diego county, but not in my town out east.

It's rocken N rollin in Southern Cal again.:eek::D


"Hold on tight fellas, its going to be a bumpy night!" :D

[old_pop2000]

"Hold on tight fellas, its going to be a bumpy night!" :D

Naaaw! It will be a fun night!! Can't let a little thing like a 5.4 bother you. Its the 7.0 and higher that you have to worry about.

[Mike Malanaphy]

For those of you interested in the snowball earth theory and further information, here is a link that you might enjoy.

http://www.snowballearth.org/index.html

Hi Dennnis,

Thanks for the link, I was wondering how they could show the existence of ice which would have melted millions of years ago. I was struck by the formation and break up of at least three super continents, Rodina, Gondwana, and Pangea in Earth's relatively recent geological past. I wonder what effect on the Earth's rotation such a concentration of mass might cause.

[Mike D]

Hi Dennnis,

I wonder what effect on the Earth's rotation such a concentration of mass might cause.

Almost none. The sum of all of the solid (rigid actually is a better word) crust of the planet, essentally everything above the asthenosphere, makes up less then .4% of the mass of the planet. Adding in the oceans only raises it to less then .5%.

[Mike Malanaphy]

Almost none. The sum of all of the solid (rigid actually is a better word) crust of the planet, essentally everything above the asthenosphere, makes up less then .4% of the mass of the planet. Adding in the oceans only raises it to less then .5%.

Hi Mike,

Awfully small percentage. I wonder if the convection cells powering continental drift change as well or remain in the same general area. Wondering if 1 billion years is enough time to explain the conglomeration of most of the planet's land masses at leat three times. I would imagine that as the earth has cooled over that period, the rate of drift has slowed.

[old_pop2000]

Hi Mike,

Awfully small percentage. I wonder if the convection cells powering continental drift change as well or remain in the same general area. Wondering if 1 billion years is enough time to explain the conglomeration of most of the planet's land masses at leat three times. I would imagine that as the earth has cooled over that period, the rate of drift has slowed.

The convection cells in the mantle do change, this is one reason for the continents moving.

[old_pop2000]

Another good link for the complete geologic history of the earth

http://www.fossilmuseum.net/GeologicalHistory.htm

http://www.fossilmuseum.net/index.htm - Home Page

Thanks

[Ed Rotondaro]

We had a 5.4 Mag. earthquake at 11:42 in LA. The epicenter was 3 miles WSW of LA in the Chino Hills. It was centered 8 miles down. There have been about four aftershocks.
A 5.4 can generate light damage, radars at LAX are down, but it probably will just scare the crap out of everyone and keep them on edge with the numerous decreasing intensity aftershocks.

Of course, sometimes, these can be the preliminary earthquakes to a very large earthquake. As the stress is released on this section of a fault, the pressure on others can be increased. It is similiar to row of dominos. Only time will tell.

It was felt possibly in northern San Diego county, but not in my town out east.

It's rocken N rollin in Southern Cal again.:eek::D

Dennis:

I was going to ask about that. Glad it was not a severe one. What is the usual sort of structural damage one has to deal with? Cracked walls? Broken windows? Stuff knocked off shelves?

[Ed Rotondaro]

Another good link for the complete geologic history of the earth

http://www.fossilmuseum.net/GeologicalHistory.htm

http://www.fossilmuseum.net/index.htm - Home Page

Thanks

Dennis and Mike:

The breakup of the super continents occurred before the age of the dinosaurs? Just trying to get my geologic clock set correctly.

[old_pop2000]

Dennis and Mike:

The breakup of the super continents occurred before the age of the dinosaurs? Just trying to get my geologic clock set correctly.


The breakup of the supercontinent of Pangea actually started at the beginning of the Age of Dinosaurs-the Triassic. It proceeded thoughout their existance and was still occurring after their demise 65 million years ago. It's difficult to identify the exact start time, usually the breakup begins almost immediately after the supercontinent forms, the earth's interior is dynamic. It's still occurring, the continents are still moving. Directions can change depending on the changes in the convection currents in the mantle. Here is a good animation of the breakup.

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es0806/es0806page01.cfm?chapter_no=visualization

Africa is still moving north, shrinking the Mediterranean. There is a rift zone which is breaking off the horn of africa, India is still crashing into the Eurasian continent, so the Himalyas are till going up. Things are still moving.

[Ed Rotondaro]

The breakup of the supercontinent of Pangea actually started at the beginning of the Age of Dinosaurs-the Triassic. It proceeded thoughout their existance and was still occurring after their demise 65 million years ago. It's difficult to identify the exact start time, usually the breakup begins almost immediately after the supercontinent forms, the earth's interior is dynamic. It's still occurring, the continents are still moving. Directions can change depending on the changes in the convection currents in the mantle. Here is a good animation of the breakup.

http://www.classzone.com/books/earth_science/terc/content/visualizations/es0806/es0806page01.cfm?chapter_no=visualization

Africa is still moving north, shrinking the Mediterranean. There is a rift zone which is breaking off the horn of africa, India is still crashing into the Eurasian continent, so the Himalyas are till going up. Things are still moving.


Dennis:

So obviously the breakup had to have effected the climate, hence the various ages of the dinosaurs? Triassic, Jurrasic, Cretacious.

[old_pop2000]

Dennis:

So obviously the breakup had to have effected the climate, hence the various ages of the dinosaurs? Triassic, Jurassic, Cretacious.

The extinction of the dinosaurs was already in progress, when the asteroid struck at the Yucatan. We know that the movement of the plates and hence the continents did the environments of many of the continents. I.E. Madagasar changed from a lush forested area to a more savannah drier environment. The plant life died off and that eliminated the plant eaters, causing the meat eaters to become cannibals, but eventually they died off. This is what happened on all the continents. The change in climate due to the lessening of the sun's insolation, caused cooling on the earth, the continents moved away from the equatorial zones and changed the ocean currents, thereby changing the long term weather patterns, with orogeny, many areas that were lush and green, became deserts. Again, the food chain from plants to plant eaters to meat eaters was disrupted. The mass extinction was a coup de grace, not necessarily a preliminary and final stroke.

[Ed Rotondaro]

The extinction of the dinosaurs was already in progress, when the asteroid struck at the Yucatan. We know that the movement of the plates and hence the continents did the environments of many of the continents. I.E. Madagasar changed from a lush forested area to a more savannah drier environment. The plant life died off and that eliminated the plant eaters, causing the meat eaters to become cannibals, but eventually they died off. This is what happened on all the continents. The change in climate due to the lessening of the sun's insolation, caused cooling on the earth, the continents moved away from the equatorial zones and changed the ocean currents, thereby changing the long term weather patterns, with orogeny, many areas that were lush and green, became deserts. Again, the food chain from plants to plant eaters to meat eaters was disrupted. The mass extinction was a coup de grace, not necessarily a preliminary and final stroke.

Dennis:

We know a lot, but nowhere near enough to totally understand this planet and the cycles it goes through. Truly mind boggling.

[old_pop2000]

Dennis:

We know a lot, but nowhere near enough to totally understand this planet and the cycles it goes through. Truly mind boggling.


It's a real who-dunnit. Every little bit of evidence leads you closer to the solution. Sometimes, that little bit of information can finish the puzzle and it looks different than when you started. Unfortunately, the earth's prehistory, is mostly missing, due to heat, pressure and erosion destroying the evidence.

[old_pop2000]

Interesting discovery of a Greek woman embalmed in a lead coffin with her eye brows still intact. Embalming apparently was practiced during Roman times in Greec.

http://www.livescience.com/history/080804-greek-embalming.html

[old_pop2000]

Interesting article on Rogue Waves.

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080804-rogue-waves.html

[Mike Malanaphy]

Interesting article on Rogue Waves.

http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/080804-rogue-waves.html

Hi Dennis,

There is a good show on those waves I just saw again on the History Channel. They were speculative only until film of one hitting a tanker was shown. Pretty impressive as well as severe damage to several cruise ships hit by them. Satelites by the European Space Agency could spot them by radar and there were several areas of the ocean where conditions for them are good two of which were off the Cape of Good Hope and the tip of South America.

[old_pop2000]

Hi Dennis,

There is a good show on those waves I just saw again on the History Channel. They were speculative only until film of one hitting a tanker was shown. Pretty impressive as well as severe damage to several cruise ships hit by them. Satelites by the European Space Agency could spot them by radar and there were several areas of the ocean where conditions for them are good two of which were off the Cape of Good Hope and the tip of South America.


I believe I saw that program. Enjoyed it. It's an interesting subject, which explains some of the mysterious disappearances of ships.

[john964]

Hi Dennis,

There is a good show on those waves I just saw again on the History Channel. They were speculative only until film of one hitting a tanker was shown. Pretty impressive as well as severe damage to several cruise ships hit by them. Satelites by the European Space Agency could spot them by radar and there were several areas of the ocean where conditions for them are good two of which were off the Cape of Good Hope and the tip of South America.Duing the winter stormes off of Cape Horn in the Drake Passage SeaSat and Radar Maping sats have recorded waves of over 200ft with a rare few approching 300ft.

[Mike Malanaphy]

Duing the winter stormes off of Cape Horn in the Drake Passage SeaSat and Radar Maping sats have recorded waves of over 200ft with a rare few approching 300ft.


Hi John,

WOW! 200-300 foot waves. There is another show about ship loss I've seen on the history channel on the loss of the Derbyshire in a storm off Formosa. Thye show was about the locatioin and examination of the wreck by the same outfit that located HMS Hood. Very interesting as she was the largest bulk carrier in British service and suddnely sank without survivors in the mid 90s. The wreck was snapped in half and I believe the loss was attributed to faulty hatch covers that allowed flooding near the bow of the ship, the unequal weight breaking her back. Wonder if she could have been a victim of a rouge?

[old_pop2000]

It's a busy time, geologically in the Aleutians


News Release
U.S. Department of the Interior
U.S. Geological Survey

Release Date: Aug. 7, 2008

Contacts: .....

Third Aleutian Volcano Erupts Explosively

Kasatochi Volcano in Alaska’s Aleutian Islands erupted explosively Aug. 7, sending an ash plume more than 35,000 feet into the air and forcing two biologists from the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to evacuate the island.

“Kasatochi went from a quiet volcano to an explosive eruption within 24 hours and with very little warning,” said USGS volcano scientist Marianne Guffanti. “We are thankful our colleagues were able to get out before the eruption began. They were rescued just in time by a local fishing boat.”

Kasatochi is the third volcano to erupt in the Aleutian Islands in three weeks. Okmok Volcano erupted unexpectedly and explosively on July 12, followed by Cleveland Volcano, 100 miles away, on July 21. Both volcanoes sent ash plumes skyrocketing and caused commercial airline flights to be diverted or cancelled.

Scientists relied on seismic instruments on other volcano networks in the area to detect activity at Kasatochi volcano.

"Fortunately, the existing seismic networks on nearby volcanoes picked up the activity at Kasatochi volcano," said Tom Murray, scientist-in-charge of the Alaska Volcano Observatory (AVO). "They were installed with funding from the Federal Aviation Administration to reduce the hazard to aviation from volcanic ash. These networks were crucial in recognizing that this volcano had entered the first stage of a major eruption.”

“Our hope is to have monitoring equipment on all volcanoes that pose the greatest threats to public safety,” said Guffanti. “Satellite imagery is useful to see the big picture of what is happening and what is going into the atmosphere. But direct instrumentation, such as placing seismic monitors around a volcano, will help give an early warning and give people more time to plan for hazardous events.”

Scientists are working around the clock to monitor the volcanoes and keep the public and emergency responders informed

......

[old_pop2000]

Maybe a cloaking device is closer than we think.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080810/sc_nm/cloaking_dc

[old_pop2000]

Observations and Tectonic Setting of Historic and Instrumentally Located
Earthquakes in the Greater New York City–Philadelphia Area

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/MediaAlerts/2008/2008082127363.html

Enjoy:p

[old_pop2000]

You are going to love this report. Heh Heh!!:p

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080904/sc_livescience/thinkingmakesuspigout

[Ed Rotondaro]

You are going to love this report. Heh Heh!!:p

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080904/sc_livescience/thinkingmakesuspigout

Dennis:

Great now we have an excuse to over eat, it's because we're smart! If so why are there so many fat dummies in the world?

[old_pop2000]

Dennis:

Great now we have an excuse to over eat, it's because we're smart! If so why are there so many fat dummies in the world?


Probably because they think sitting at a computer will make them smart. If you ain't smart before sitting, a dumb computer ain't going to help. The blind leading the blind.

[old_pop2000]

Melting Swiss glacier yields Neolithic trove, climate secrets

Maybe global warming isn't so bad after all.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080905/lf_afp/switzerlandarchaeologyclimatewarming

[keschofield]

This most recent find sounds like a Clive Cussler story!

[paladin5]

How does cussler stack up compared to Tom Clancy, I need something to read and i was thinking of picking up one of Cusslers books from the local library

[old_pop2000]

How does cussler stack up compared to Tom Clancy, I need something to read and i was thinking of picking up one of Cusslers books from the local library

Cussler has funded numerous archeological expeditions to underwater sites, he seems to have a real interest, so his books appear better researched. This is the same for Clancy, both are well researched and closer to reality.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Observations and Tectonic Setting of Historic and Instrumentally Located
Earthquakes in the Greater New York City–Philadelphia Area

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Newsroom/MediaAlerts/2008/2008082127363.html

Enjoy:p

Dennis:

Nobody is completely safe from earthquakes. We've had about three in recent memory with damage or loss of life. We were lucky.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Probably because they think sitting at a computer will make them smart. If you ain't smart before sitting, a dumb computer ain't going to help. The blind leading the blind.

Digital crack for the 21st. Century so to speak?

[Ed Rotondaro]

This most recent find sounds like a Clive Cussler story!

Kurt:

I love Clive Cussler! Dirk Pitt rules baby! Will any of the hurricanes threaten you? Stay safe bro.

[Mike Malanaphy]

Dennis:

Great now we have an excuse to over eat, it's because we're smart! If so why are there so many fat dummies in the world?

Hi Guys,

Help! How come my IQ isn't as big as my waistline? :)

[Ed Rotondaro]

How does cussler stack up compared to Tom Clancy, I need something to read and i was thinking of picking up one of Cusslers books from the local library

Michael:

Clive Cussler is a great read. He can't write a bad book, some are just better than others. Have fun.

[keschofield]

Kurt:

I love Clive Cussler! Dirk Pitt rules baby! Will any of the hurricanes threaten you? Stay safe bro.


I used to ingest Cussler tales like Coca Cola. But now after 20 years of reading them, they are getting a little formulaic like made for TV movies. The first few though were very well thought out and imaginative.

No change in our weather. Still hazy, hot, and humid everyday. No rain in the forecast until end of next week and then its only a 30% chance. Nobody has green lawns around here any more. Its starting to make me think of my old California home! Lots of grass ... all of it brown. :eek:

Have a good weekend.

[john964]

How does cussler stack up compared to Tom Clancy, I need something to read and i was thinking of picking up one of Cusslers books from the local libraryMike, What Cussler writes is adventure novels, His style is to take an historical event an write a story. In Tresure it is the discovery of The classical "Libaray of Alexandrea" under a hill in Texas. The libaray was the equivelent to the Libraray of Congress and Smithsonian and maybe toss in the British Museum. The Libaray was distroyed in 492 AD by religious zelots. If you want to start reading Cusslers book I recomend starting with his first books as the contain alot of background information that would appear in his later books.

[Warship NWS]

Hi Guys,

Help! How come my IQ isn't as big as my waistline? :)

LMAO!!! Thats a good one. ;)

[old_pop2000]

Out of something bad, something good.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080922/ap_on_re_us/ground_zero_ice_age

thanks

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20080925/sc_livescience/oldestrocksonearthfound

[Campy]

NEW YORK - Crews excavating the World Trade Center site this summer for the foundations of a new skyscraper have uncovered features carved into the bedrock by glaciers about 20,000 years ago, including a 40-foot-deep pothole.

And the city was immediately sued by dozens of lawyers who claim their clients' cars were damaged by the pothole. :D:D:D:D

Frank

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_on_fe_st/odd_ike_big_tooth

[Ed Rotondaro]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081003/ap_on_fe_st/odd_ike_big_tooth

Now that's impressive.

[old_pop2000]

Okay, who put the mountain range in Antarctica.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081021/sc_livescience/hugemountainrangeshouldnotbethere

[Ed Rotondaro]

Okay, who put the mountain range in Antarctica.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081021/sc_livescience/hugemountainrangeshouldnotbethere

Interesting, especially some of the slide shows of the ice.

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081023/sc_afp/greecearchaeology

[Ed Rotondaro]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081023/sc_afp/greecearchaeology

Dennis:

I'm not expert on anthropology, but isn't a little late to be considered the Stone Age? Weren't there bronze age civilizations at the same time?

[old_pop2000]

Dennis:

I'm not expert on anthropology, but isn't a little late to be considered the Stone Age? Weren't there bronze age civilizations at the same time?

The Bronze age occurred at different times, in different places. According to my research, in Europe the Bronze age started around 2300 years ago. So, this is probably a period called the New Stone Age. This was the period of the adoption of agriculture technology, higher order settlements. Its called the Neolithic or new stone age.

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081031/ap_on_sc/as_new_zealand_rare_reptile

[john964]

The Bronze age occurred at different times, in different places. According to my research, in Europe the Bronze age started around 2300 years ago. So, this is probably a period called the New Stone Age. This was the period of the adoption of agriculture technology, higher order settlements. Its called the Neolithic or new stone age.
Don't forget the Copper Age which ran from 5000-2500 years ago. IIRC Otzi the Iceman found in the Italian and Austrian Alps dates to about 3300 BC

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081031/ap_on_re_eu/eu_greece_acropolis_earthquakes

[old_pop2000]

Don't forget the Copper Age which ran from 5000-2500 years ago. IIRC Otzi the Iceman found in the Italian and Austrian Alps dates to about 3300 BC

The Eneolithic period is a transitional period between the stone and bronze age, and is not widely distributed throughout the world. It is usually a period from 2500 bc to 2000 bc.

I did not really forget about it, but it proliferation is no wide outside of the bordering Med areas and Bohemia. Of course, archeologist are still searching and those dates and areas can be changed.

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081111/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_egypt_new_pyramid

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/12/16/rat.mekong/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Interesting how some scientists are proclaiming the demise of so many species of flora and fauna, yet every week, other scientists are finding a 'treasure trove" of new ones.

Hmm! Me thinks there's a game afoot!!:rolleyes:

[Christian Schwietzke]

FYI

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/science/12/16/rat.mekong/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

Interesting how some scientists are proclaiming the demise of so many species of flora and fauna, yet every week, other scientists are finding a 'treasure trove" of new ones.

Hmm! Me thinks there's a game afoot!!:rolleyes:

Yes. The game is, for each species, "can we discover it before it goes extinct?"

Sadly, in most cases, we won´t even know when we lose a game.

[Kyle Holgate]

Drilling for magma? Interesting that it's Dacite they found, in Hawaii no less. That is the same kind of lava that was involved with the Mt. St. Helens blast of 1980 (and much bigger ones before that). Hawaii has low silica lava/magma at least as far as what comes up - low silica = runnier and more able to release gas, high silica gets really thick or almost solid and so can't release gas without exploding.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7780873.stm

[Ed Rotondaro]

Drilling for magma? Interesting that it's Dacite they found, in Hawaii no less. That is the same kind of lava that was involved with the Mt. St. Helens blast of 1980 (and much bigger ones before that). Hawaii has low silica lava/magma at least as far as what comes up - low silica = runnier and more able to release gas, high silica gets really thick or almost solid and so can't release gas without exploding.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7780873.stm

Interesting reading, thanks.

[old_pop2000]

FYI

Abrupt Cllimate Change Report from the Climate Change Science Bureau

http://www.climatescience.gov/Library/sap/sap3-4/final-report/default.htm

[old_pop2000]

FYI

Roman battlefield unearthed deep inside Germany

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/germanyarchaeology;_ylt=Av60.9xqOkFvYIIWkpdI8PkFO7 gF

[old_pop2000]

FYI

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/science/01/02/comet.diamonds/index.html?eref=rss_topstories

[Kyle Holgate]

Thanks for the heads up on this one Dennis!

I've been interested in the theory of an asteroid or comet impact causing the extinction of many critters (and probably plants) 12-13000 years ago. The evidence appears to be mounting.
Must keep watching though, funny how one little fact can totally ruin a perfectly good theory!

[old_pop2000]

FYI


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090201/ap_on_bi_ge/shipwreck_discovery

[Ed Rotondaro]

FYI


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090201/ap_on_bi_ge/shipwreck_discovery

Dennis:

The Discovery CHannel has a show called Treasure Hunters and they had the epsidoe on where they raised the cannons that helped ID the ship last weekend.

[old_pop2000]

Google earth, as a challenge from Oceanographers, has released its new version with underwater ocean features added. Obviously, as more mapping of the ocean features is accomplished more will be added. But they have resonded to the challenge.

[Christian Schwietzke]

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/02/12/kablam-satellite-collision-math-and-a-correction/

This guy - a really good astronomer, despite the name of his blog - has some information on the recent satellite collision.

[old_pop2000]

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/02/12/kablam-satellite-collision-math-and-a-correction/

This guy - a really good astronomer, despite the name of his blog - has some information on the recent satellite collision.

Thanks, this should be interesting reading later.

[Ed Rotondaro]

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/02/12/kablam-satellite-collision-math-and-a-correction/

This guy - a really good astronomer, despite the name of his blog - has some information on the recent satellite collision.

Christian:

Fun article, especially the calculation for the Kinetic energy released.

[Christian Schwietzke]

Christian:

Fun article, especially the calculation for the Kinetic energy released.

Yup, that´s Phil for you. You should check out his book... he can make even the end of the world sound like fun.

[Ed Rotondaro]

Yup, that´s Phil for you. You should check out his book... he can make even the end of the world sound like fun.

Christian:

I'll add it to the list of books I hope to get around to reading LOL!

[Christian Schwietzke]

Christian:

I'll add it to the list of books I hope to get around to reading LOL!

You should. His first book, Bad Astronomy, is pretty good, too.

[old_pop2000]

Interesting article on arctic melting and the deep ocean currents

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40660195/ns/us_news-environment/

Seems like it is too late to stop the warming of the oceans.

Just one man's opinion, of course.

Thoughts, ideas, opinions?