1780's British Warship found in Lake Ontario.

[old_pop2000]

I found this interesting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25145600/

[Ed Rotondaro]

I found this interesting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25145600/

Dennis:

I respect their decision to treat this as a wargrave, but it would have been nice if they or the Canadian/British governments would have considered trying to raise it and make it into a memorial museum. Several smaller warships have been raised from these lakes and restorred.

[john964]

Dennis:

I respect their decision to treat this as a wargrave, but it would have been nice if they or the Canadian/British governments would have considered trying to raise it and make it into a memorial museum. Several smaller warships have been raised from these lakes and restorred.
According to the artical it was found in the southern part of the lake and the ship might be in US waters, and that would open another can of worms.

[old_pop2000]

According to the artical it was found in the southern part of the lake and the ship might be in US waters, and that would open another can of worms.
I don't know, Ed. I think it would be a nice concept for the Canadians, US and Great Britiain to jointly raise the ship and sponsor a museum on the Canadian side to show the ship, with British envolvement.

What's your take?

[Ed Rotondaro]

I don't know, Ed. I think it would be a nice concept for the Canadians, US and Great Britiain to jointly raise the ship and sponsor a museum on the Canadian side to show the ship, with British envolvement.

What's your take?

Dennis:

It would be a gold mine for historians and certainly have some tourist value once restored, but since the ship is not a famous one per se it might be impossible to generate interest and raise funding even if the legal matters are resolved to all parties satisfaction. But then again Britain and Canada respect the past more than the US does these days. But John does point out the question of marine salvage rights which is a complex matter of which I know little or nothing. A salvage operation in waters that deep is bound to be costly, difficult, dangerous and time consuming.

As an aside, you may recall the famous ship wreck of the "Edmund Fitzgerald" on Lake Superior which was immortalized in song by Canadian folksinger Gordon Lightfoot. Several years back National Geographic sponsored a series of dives on the wreck which is in very good condition due to the deep cold waters. Eventually they decided to raise the ship's bell as a memorial, but since the ship had sunk in Canadian waters, they had to get special permission to do so. They used a high tech deep diving suit and cutoff the original bell while leaving a replica in its place. I mention this to give you an idea on some of the issues both moral, legal and technical that would be involved. Sorry for the long post.

[Fleet Command CC]

I found this interesting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25145600/

Great find old_pop2000 niceone. I too respect their decision to treat this ship as a war-grave. All war ships that have been suck should be left alone, in respect to all the people that have died on the ships, but this is only my opinion.

[john964]

I don't know, Ed. I think it would be a nice concept for the Canadians, US and Great Britiain to jointly raise the ship and sponsor a museum on the Canadian side to show the ship, with British envolvement.

What's your take?How about a joint museum in Buffalo/Niagra Falls area.

[Ed Rotondaro]

How about a joint museum in Buffalo/Niagra Falls area.

John:

I certainly like that and Buffalo can use all the tourist help it can get. It does have the Fletcher class DD "The Sullivans" on display along with the guided missile cruiser "Little Rock" IIRC.

[old_pop2000]

John:

I certainly like that and Buffalo can use all the tourist help it can get. It does have the Fletcher class DD "The Sullivans" on display along with the guided missile cruiser "Little Rock" IIRC.

San Diego has a Foxtrot Class Soviet Submarine along with the USS Midway. We also have the Star of India, The Berkeley, The HMS Surprise etc.

Of course, we have some non-visitor displays also: 3 100,000 ton Nimitz class carriers docked the Quay Wall on NAS North Island, and good part of the US Pacific Fleet docked at 32nd Street. Along with fleet HK subs at Ballast Point. Believe me, we are lousy with naval ships and commercial ships in this harbor. Aircraft wise, we have everything, including V-22 Osprey's.:D:D:D