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So we have been playing this for awhile, and the list of ships this sim boasts is impressive. But we all have our "Flagship". The one we like the most to play as in this game. Or at least I would assume we do.
For me it is....
WWI: HMS Agincourt (A.K.A. The Gin Palace)
Love the history and the design of this ship. When the Brazilians wanted a new warship they sought the biggest guns they could get for their new Dreadnought Rio de Janeiro... barring that possibility... they simply went with the most guns... 7 Turrets for a total of 14 12" guns!!
A weak belt armor belt gives her a relatively soft chin (do to a thinner then normal belt and sub par internal layout). But she has good speed and firepower to spare. Her number of big guns makes her chew through her ammo stores quickly, which has me holding fire for a turn or two more then I normally would as I close the range. But the payoff is huge when you land a Full ROF broadside inside of 15,000 yards.
WWII: HMS Hood (A.K.A. The mighty 'ood)
Big, fast, well armed and simply majestic in her lines the Hood was (and to me at least, is) the quintessential capital warship. Her speed firepower and Jutland inspired "Knife Fight Armour" scheme has me firing first, closing range quickly, and asking questions later. Hood is a monster when in the right hands, and can fight out of her weight class when she needs to.
As we learned historically, she would do well to keep out of long range slug-fests where her thinner deck armor is vulnerable to plunging fire. But the list of warships where this is an issue dwarfs the list to where it isn't.
How about you guys?
clacton2
08-14-2010, 07:57 PM
So we have been playing this for awhile, and the list of ships this sim boasts is impressive. But we all have our "Flagship". The one we like the most to play as in this game. Or at least I would assume we do.
For me it is....
WWI: HMS Agincourt (A.K.A. The Gin Palace)
Love the history and the design of this ship. When the Brazilians wanted a new warship they sought the biggest guns they could get for their new Dreadnought Rio de Janeiro... barring that possibility... they simply went with the most guns... 7 Turrets for a total of 14 12" guns!!
A weak belt armor belt gives her a relatively soft chin (do to a thinner then normal belt and sub par internal layout). But she has good speed and firepower to spare. Her number of big guns makes her chew through her ammo stores quickly, which has me holding fire for a turn or two more then I normally would as I close the range. But the payoff is huge when you land a Full ROF broadside inside of 15,000 yards.
WWII: HMS Hood (A.K.A. The mighty 'ood)
Big, fast, well armed and simply majestic in her lines the Hood was (and to me at least, is) the quintessential capital warship. Her speed firepower and Jutland inspired "Knife Fight Armour" scheme has me firing first, closing range quickly, and asking questions later. Hood is a monster when in the right hands, and can fight out of her weight class when she needs to.
As we learned historically, she would do well to keep out of long range slug-fests where her thinner deck armor is vulnerable to plunging fire. But the list of warships where this is an issue dwarfs the list to where it isn't.
How about you guys?
Hi,
WWI -- HMS Lion ( A super cat )
WW2 -- HMS Vanguard ( Improved KGV class, completed post war, but a WW2 design )
Jon :D
Saffron
08-14-2010, 07:58 PM
Gotta love the Iowas and the South Dakotas for their radar and accuracy. I recently played a game where 5 US battleships (1 Iowa, 1 South Dakota, 2 New Mexicos, and an Arkansas) took on 5 Japanese battleships (2 Ise, 2 Nagatos, and a Kongo) in heavy seas with rain. There was also a plethora of CAs, CLs, and DDs.
Missouri and Alabama were lobbing shells at the Japanese battleline almost from the start, but the Japanese couldn't detect their own noses ... and despite the weather and seas, both ships landed hit after hit after hit. Both fleets closed to a knife fight, and the Japanese fleet was completely destroyed - 5 battleships, 5 heavy cruisers, 4 light cruisers and 7 destroyers went to the bottom. The US side (me) suffered one torpedo hit to the New Mexico (doing minimal damage), but the Japanese got super lucky with 2 magazine explosions against US heavy cruisers (US cruisers seem rather vulnerable to mag explosions.)
Excellent choices gents! The Iowas are beasts, practically Krakens for all intents and purposes. But they are so powerful it is almost unfair LOL, and this is appropriate...
asnrobert
08-17-2010, 10:44 AM
I've played with the Alaska class BCs many times. Their superior radar gives them an edge. However, they aren't meant to take on battleships (or even other battlecruisers) so if an enemy lands a punch it can cause some major hurt. They do excel at their primary task of cruiser killing.
Kyle Holgate
08-17-2010, 05:25 PM
My 2 favorites are the Konig (WW1) and Nagato (WW2). Neither are the best of their respective eras but they're good solid ships. Why those 2? No idea!
old_pop2000
08-17-2010, 06:49 PM
My 2 favorites are the Konig (WW1) and Nagato (WW2). Neither are the best of their respective eras but they're good solid ships. Why those 2? No idea!
Hi Kyle:You wouldn't say that if you had seen the results of the first Bikini bomb dropped and its effect on her. Flattened her like a pancake and she did not last the night. Same with Sakawa. Most of the same era US battleships survived except Arkansas, she went up the side of the second water spout and sank immediately.
I've played with the Alaska class BCs many times. Their superior radar gives them an edge. However, they aren't meant to take on battleships (or even other battlecruisers) so if an enemy lands a punch it can cause some major hurt. They do excel at their primary task of cruiser killing.
I too like playing ships with offsetting weaknesses. Ones that make you play to their strengths as it actually requires some thought as far as how to use them. Yeah, it's fun to pound away with advanced radar, great speed, armor out the wazoo and huge guns, but there is something about getting it done with ships that have their own character.
Sometimes though... you just gotta stand on the deck of the Iowa and watch your enemies burn....
My 2 favorites are the Konig (WW1) and Nagato (WW2). Neither are the best of their respective eras but they're good solid ships. Why those 2? No idea!
I do like a lot of the Big WWI German Giants, Konig among them... but I am a bit of an Anglophile when it comes to naval hardware. Interesting choice with the Nagato though, the huge Pagoda style Superstructure almost gives her a sci fi appearance. How do you find she performs against her contemporaries? I know she suffers in the speed Dept just a little...
Hi Kyle:You wouldn't say that if you had seen the results of the first Bikini bomb dropped and its effect on her. Flattened her like a pancake and she did not last the night. Same with Sakawa. Most of the same era US battleships survived except Arkansas, she went up the side of the second water spout and sank immediately.
Well in all fairness... she was nuked... LOL
Also, what a crime that so many historical ships were wasted on those tests... so many belonged in a museum... I mean they nuked the Prinz Eugen for gods sake!
old_pop2000
08-18-2010, 04:14 AM
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Also, what a crime that so many historical ships were wasted on those tests... so many belonged in a museum... I mean they nuked the Prinz Eugen for gods sake!
Their historic value is only recognized now, after sixty or so years, at the time, it was and still is more important to test the current state of technology and find out the weaknesses. The current naval vessels owe much to the nuclear tests conducted on those ships. This is why the Navy tested on the USS America. To find out how to improve current technology. However, more importantly, it was to safeguard the men who might sail on future ships. It was hard for many of the sailors who participated in the tests, to watch their own ships go down. My dad watched the Saratoga sink from a boat which carried the scientists. They couldn't get close to her because she was so radioactive so they had to let her sink. It was no crime, it was important.
Their historic value is only recognized now, after sixty or so years, at the time, it was and still is more important to test the current state of technology and find out the weaknesses. The current naval vessels owe much to the nuclear tests conducted on those ships. This is why the Navy tested on the USS America. To find out how to improve current technology. However, more importantly, it was to safeguard the men who might sail on future ships. It was hard for many of the sailors who participated in the tests, to watch their own ships go down. My dad watched the Saratoga sink from a boat which carried the scientists. They couldn't get close to her because she was so radioactive so they had to let her sink. It was no crime, it was important.
They knocked out some one-of-a-kind vessels where they could have used stand ins and less important ships... I know what the tests brought to the table... but still...
Antonin
08-22-2010, 11:51 PM
This is a fascinating thread. I don't have the game [yet], but for me it would probably be one of those beautiful WWI German battleships.
This is a fascinating thread. I don't have the game [yet], but for me it would probably be one of those beautiful WWI German battleships.
My god man, the very fact that you found this sight tells me all I need to know about your interests.. so what is keeping you from finding out what ship you'll be hanging your colors from?!? LOL
Antonin
08-23-2010, 10:56 PM
Let it be the Prince Regent Leopold, then. There's a lovely picture of it in a book I bought in 1975.
I do admire the beauty of so many of the WWII capital ships, especially the German and Japanese ones, but I'm most interested in WWI, before aircraft carriers spoiled everything.
I can spend hours looking through my copy of "Jane's Fighting Ships of World War I," studying the specs and looking at the photos.
Let it be the Prince Regent Leopold, then. There's a lovely picture of it in a book I bought in 1975.
I do admire the beauty of so many of the WWII capital ships, especially the German and Japanese ones, but I'm most interested in WWI, before aircraft carriers spoiled everything.
I can spend hours looking through my copy of "Jane's Fighting Ships of World War I," studying the specs and looking at the photos.
Ahh yes... the lure of guns that can shoot for miles, crush a city, that rely on the Mk I Eyeball for guidence... LOL Good stuff sir!
It is a fun game though for Naval-philes, and in WWII (in this game at least) there are no Aircraft Carriers to ruin your day!
Antonin
08-24-2010, 12:54 AM
Of course, war is a horrible thing, but I have to admire the bravery and dedication to duty displayed by men of all nations who take to the sea in warships. And, as I have said, so many of those ships, especially the capital ships, are things of great beauty, at least in my eyes.
Flipping through one of my books I came across several photos: the British-built Fuji, circa 1905; the pre-dreadnought Deutschland; some of the WWII ships like the USS South Dakota and the Yamato...such gorgeous ships!
But when I get this game, Prince Regent Leopold will be my flagship...:)
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