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Akmatov
10-15-2009, 03:51 PM
Looking at the Data Tables last night I realized that I was unsure what FP referred to. Obviously, it is Fire Power; but is it the Fire Power of one turret or the FP of the entire ship?
Either answer least to other thoughts, but I wanted to start with the basic.
Warship NWS
10-15-2009, 04:07 PM
Looking at the Data Tables last night I realized that I was unsure what FP referred to. Obviously, it is Fire Power; but is it the Fire Power of one turret or the FP of the entire ship?
Either answer least to other thoughts, but I wanted to start with the basic.
FP per battery on a ship.. example; main battery, secondary battery, and tertiary battery.
Akmatov
10-15-2009, 04:42 PM
OK, so looking at the Data Tables:
BB Dreadnought
Main Battery (10x12"guns) = FP 9
OB Lord Nelson
Main Battery (4x12" guns) = FP 6
OK, the layout of the Dreadnought only allowed a broadside of 8 of her 10 guns. But still the difference seems too small. The Lord Nelson's 12" guns have a FP value of 1.5 and the Dreadnought's guns have a FP value of 1.13. Why bother with an all big gun ship if the adding of guns resulted in only marginally more fire power and a general decrease in individual gun effectiveness? This is quite the contrary to the usual 'story'. I would think doubling the number of guns in a broadside would come a lot closer to doubling the impact.
I also notice the Dreadnought and the Lord Nelson both have a speed of 5 or 20 knots. Once again, this seems contrary to the conventional 'story'; which lauds the Dreadnought for its higher speed. I vaguely remember the Lord Nelson being rated at about 18 knots and the Dreadnought at 21. Not a huge difference, but still close to the 4 knots scale you are using. I suspect the true difference was that the Dreadnought could actually run at 21 knots for some time without breaking its engines, as was much more likely than with the non-turbine engines that proceeded it.
Curious.
Warship NWS
10-15-2009, 05:04 PM
In WCNAW v1.0 all speeds will be in actuall knots, example, Dreadnought will show 21 knots and Lord Nelson 18 knots - point being the previous 4 knot break point system is gone. 18/4 was 4.5 and 21/4 was 5.25 - both rounded to 5 using the previous system. As to the firepower ratings - as noted in our manual - the ratings are *not* linear. Example, 9 does not mean 33% more firepower then 6. The ratings are based on a range of calculations such as turret reliability/complexity, loading cycle (including elevation rates and angles), effective broadside, adjusted per shell type design and quality (which is also based on shell type selected if that option is used), consistent combat operational rate of fire, shell pattern, barrel accuracy, any possible shell trajectory disruption from the barrells (when applicable), etc..etc..etc.. And it does not stop there - the FP ratings are modified further based on combat ranges, ballistic profiles, ROF selected (if the option is used), etc.. according to the targeting resolution per firing sequence.
FP = an indicator for reference - not a simple measuring stick for firepower.
Thanks.
Akmatov
10-15-2009, 05:27 PM
In WCNAW v1.0 all speeds will be in actual knots, example, Dreadnought will show 21 knots and Lord Nelson 18 knots - point being the previous 4 knot break point system is gone. 18/4 was 4.5 and 21/4 was 5.25 - both rounded to 5 using the previous system.
Ah ha, makes sense and the new WCNAW is eagerly awaited.
the ratings are *not* linear & FP = an indicator for reference - not a simple measuring stick for firepower.
Had forgotten the "not linear" comment. Still, FP is the only hint we mortals have hence the confusion.
Thanks for the fast info.
Warship NWS
10-15-2009, 05:33 PM
No problem Akmatov.. appreciate the support! :)
Warship NWS
10-15-2009, 05:37 PM
BTW Ak. .. here is some reading for you regarding the WCNAW v1.0 detail level of gunnery combat mechanics if you have not read it already; http://forums.navalwarfare.org//showthread.php?t=1463
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