Scaffold
03-11-2009, 08:13 PM
Greetings gentlemen!
I made a thorough research of the names of the Russian ships of Tsushima era which you included in the game. Now I would like to correct you. The sources you used were wrong on a number of occasions. It seems to me that it could be due to the practice of naming a class after the first launched ship. But the Russian Empire used to be slow and bureaucratic and not always the supposed lead ship of the class was the first to be launched. Let's have a look at the unit sheets.
BATTLESHIPS
Let's start with Imperator Alex II. I understand that you shortened the name due to the limits of card space, but don't forget that actually it was Imperator Alexander II.
The class you named Admiral Ushakov actually was Admiral Senyavin class.
The class you named Petropavlovsk actually was Poltava class.
Tsarevich - you fell to the long-standing trap of the two Russian words. The battleship was actually named Tsesarevich. The word Tsarevich - meaning son of a tsar - fell out of use long before the 20th century, and hardly any ship could be named like that. Tsesarevich means 'heir to the throne', a pretty good name for a mighty battleship of the time.
CRUISERS
Much better here. The only error is that Izumrud class was actually Zhemchug class.
By the way, all Russian non-armoured cruisers are designated as light cruisers, while they were protected cruisers.
DESTROYERS
Much worse here. I could not trace the origins of the names you gave to the classes, they seem random. I give you an excuse though - the question is quite complicated because in 1902 all Russian destroyers were renamed.
Puilki class. Spelling is weird, the closest to the Russian spelling would be Pylkiy. Not correct anyway. The class name was Sokol. In 1902, the lead ship of the class got the name Prytkiy. Still, all Russian sources refer to the class as Sokol class.
Boevoy class. Actually Inzhener-Mekhanik Zverev class. I suppose you included this class for the 'what if' purposes because in reality none of the ships of the class were ready soon enough to participate in Russo-Japanese war.
Bezstrashni class. Again, Besstrashniy would sound closer to the original. But still, actually it was Kit class. In 1902, the lead ship was renamed Bditelniy. Still, class retained Kit name.
Vnimatelni. Vnimatelniy is more correct, and it's the only class you named almost correct. 'Almost' because actually it was Forel class. The lead ship renamed Vnimatelniy in 1902, but class retained it's old name.
Boiki. I'd suggest the spelling Boikiy. But the class name was actually Buiniy. As usual, it started as Bychyok class, but after rename the class became known as Buiniy class, unlike all of the above.
The last but not least. In the Tsushima battle, you count all of the nine destroyers as Boiki (Buiniy actually) class. But in reality, only seven of them were Buiniy's. The remaining two were Grozniy class. Grozniy class is sometimes referred to as the sub class of Buiniy. The only major difference (armament-wise) between them was that Grozniy carried only two torpedo tubes instead of three at Buiniy. So if you are obsessed with realism (like me), don't forget the fact that two of your destroyers carry only two torpedoes each.
That's all regarding Tsushima-era ships. Any constructive feedback is welcome.
And of course thank you very much for the attention to the Russo-Japanese war!
Cheers!
I made a thorough research of the names of the Russian ships of Tsushima era which you included in the game. Now I would like to correct you. The sources you used were wrong on a number of occasions. It seems to me that it could be due to the practice of naming a class after the first launched ship. But the Russian Empire used to be slow and bureaucratic and not always the supposed lead ship of the class was the first to be launched. Let's have a look at the unit sheets.
BATTLESHIPS
Let's start with Imperator Alex II. I understand that you shortened the name due to the limits of card space, but don't forget that actually it was Imperator Alexander II.
The class you named Admiral Ushakov actually was Admiral Senyavin class.
The class you named Petropavlovsk actually was Poltava class.
Tsarevich - you fell to the long-standing trap of the two Russian words. The battleship was actually named Tsesarevich. The word Tsarevich - meaning son of a tsar - fell out of use long before the 20th century, and hardly any ship could be named like that. Tsesarevich means 'heir to the throne', a pretty good name for a mighty battleship of the time.
CRUISERS
Much better here. The only error is that Izumrud class was actually Zhemchug class.
By the way, all Russian non-armoured cruisers are designated as light cruisers, while they were protected cruisers.
DESTROYERS
Much worse here. I could not trace the origins of the names you gave to the classes, they seem random. I give you an excuse though - the question is quite complicated because in 1902 all Russian destroyers were renamed.
Puilki class. Spelling is weird, the closest to the Russian spelling would be Pylkiy. Not correct anyway. The class name was Sokol. In 1902, the lead ship of the class got the name Prytkiy. Still, all Russian sources refer to the class as Sokol class.
Boevoy class. Actually Inzhener-Mekhanik Zverev class. I suppose you included this class for the 'what if' purposes because in reality none of the ships of the class were ready soon enough to participate in Russo-Japanese war.
Bezstrashni class. Again, Besstrashniy would sound closer to the original. But still, actually it was Kit class. In 1902, the lead ship was renamed Bditelniy. Still, class retained Kit name.
Vnimatelni. Vnimatelniy is more correct, and it's the only class you named almost correct. 'Almost' because actually it was Forel class. The lead ship renamed Vnimatelniy in 1902, but class retained it's old name.
Boiki. I'd suggest the spelling Boikiy. But the class name was actually Buiniy. As usual, it started as Bychyok class, but after rename the class became known as Buiniy class, unlike all of the above.
The last but not least. In the Tsushima battle, you count all of the nine destroyers as Boiki (Buiniy actually) class. But in reality, only seven of them were Buiniy's. The remaining two were Grozniy class. Grozniy class is sometimes referred to as the sub class of Buiniy. The only major difference (armament-wise) between them was that Grozniy carried only two torpedo tubes instead of three at Buiniy. So if you are obsessed with realism (like me), don't forget the fact that two of your destroyers carry only two torpedoes each.
That's all regarding Tsushima-era ships. Any constructive feedback is welcome.
And of course thank you very much for the attention to the Russo-Japanese war!
Cheers!