Mouse click problems

[thewood]

I have had issues with it taking many mouse clicks to activate a button since day one. It was only a minor annoyance until I really started playing more. Now it igetting close to unplayable. Anyone else seeing this?

[Warship NWS]

At most I have ever had to click a button is 2 times. What are your system specs and any TSRs?

[Coronel]

I have had issues with it taking many mouse clicks to activate a button since day one. It was only a minor annoyance until I really started playing more. Now it igetting close to unplayable. Anyone else seeing this?


Once in a while I may have to click twice. Very infrequent though. Playing as Germany versus U.K. Also I have extremely few TSRs running in the background (only A/V and A/S) and I have shut down many unnecessary processes from running that Windows will load at startup.

[thewood]

It has nothing to do with computer specs or other programs. I run some IL2, CMSF, DOW, et al with no problems. I have tried three differemt mouses. I am not sure what it is. It is very frustrating.

[Warship NWS]

It would not really have anything to do with the mouse itself - unless you have some mouse utility software running in the background that might be interfering. I called WM earlier and he has tested SAS-WW2 on 4 systems, including 2 laptops.. never having to click more then twice. Not sure what your running into on your end.

[thewood]

At this point, I've stopped playing until this is resolved. It has been with the game since day 1, but tolerated it as I played very little. Now it is at the point of not being fun. I have now tried it on 3 vista systems and same issue. I think it may be Java on Vista related because the 4th system I tried it on was an XP system and it seemed a lot better. It seems that if the mouse is not perfectly still and you are not clicking directly on the letter on the button, it won't register.

[Warship NWS]

Are they Vista 64 or 32 bit systems?

[thewood]

One 64, two 32

the XP is a business machine with SP2.

btw, I have never had this issue with any other game, although I play some VASL(Java-based) and have seen it once in awhile.

[oldspec4]

I have had issues with it taking many mouse clicks to activate a button since day one. It was only a minor annoyance until I really started playing more. Now it igetting close to unplayable. Anyone else seeing this?

I'm running on XP and also have had this problem since I started to play the game. There is a lag in the process and it generally takes me a couple of clicks to get the button to work. It's not a gamebreaker but its definitely noticeable.

[Warship NWS]

Vista 64 is the most complained about OS across our store operations so that does not surprise me any. WM runs 2 Vista 32 systems and 2 XP SP2/3 systems and I run XP SP3 with no problems. At worst 2 clicks but not that often. I do know that Vista 32 by default is a very bloated OS so we tend to run test rigs with streamlined performance settings - which can make a massive difference in OS efficiency. I have even run SAS-WW2 with multiple other apps in the background for admin work and still .. no worse problem, same with all of our other testers as well. I will pass it over to Tony though to see if he has any ideas that might help or if there is anything he can code to improve the mouse/interface refresh rates.

[thewood]

I would imagine the majority of players are using some flavor of Vista or will be soon. Like I said earlier. It seems to be having to have the curser completely still and over a letter, unless its a raised button. Raised buttons seem to work much better.

[goodwood]

I have an issue with the mouse clicking as well. an Unresponsive mouse has always been an issue, but appears to be worst with ver1.04. I especially have problems with the a/c transfer screen. I, like Thewood don't have issues with other programs. I run 32 bit XP on 2.66 gig 1 gig ram dell system. My video card is 9550 Radeon.
Ron

[thewood]

goodwood, are we related, you know the wood thing?

[Warship NWS]

Raised buttons seem to work much better.


That little bit of information may help out quite a bit. Thanks.

[Warship NWS]

I would imagine the majority of players are using some flavor of Vista or will be soon. Like I said earlier. It seems to be having to have the curser completely still and over a letter, unless its a raised button. Raised buttons seem to work much better.

Some notes; you would be surprised how many gamers are still using XP, and businesses for that matter. Vista was the worst selling OS in MSs history and the first time in their history that they offered a downgrade to XP for new buyers. The majority of gamers will likely still be using XP by the time so called "Seven" hits the streets. MS tried damn hard to force Vista on everyone, including making Halo 2 Vista only compatible, and DX10 not being released as an upgrade for XP owners.

I have never, in 10 years of running our store, had more complaints about an OS then when Vista was released. XP and 98 SE were far less problematic for gaming. I know other independent publisers/designers are also having fits with Vista based on internal and back door channel communications.

Now obviously we are testing SAS-WW2 on Vista and XP systems so we are not ignoring Vista. The above is more for FYI stuff I have come across via our store operations and community/business relations contacts.

Thanks.

[Warship NWS]

Ok.. I have asked WM to work with Tony on the mouse click inquiries. Tony is in the process of improving the interface and I will make sure he takes notes based on what has been reported so far.

Thanks.

[thewood]

Vista may suck, but its about all you can get on a new PC without extra effort.

[Warship NWS]

Vista may suck, but its about all you can get on a new PC without extra effort.

Yep.. MS knew how to monopolize and manipulate the market. Used to work in the PC retail/tech field.. I could tell you a few stories. ;)

[thewood]

Don't bother, I have been working with or on MS OS's and applications for 25 years. As much as MS screws up with things like Vista, the IT world would suck without them. Anyone remember IBM's original lock on the business PC market? MS saved us at that time.

[Warship NWS]

Don't bother, I have been working with or on MS OS's and applications for 25 years. As much as MS screws up with things like Vista, the IT world would suck without them. Anyone remember IBM's original lock on the business PC market? MS saved us at that time.

We are not far apart my friend.. been around the computer block since 1980 with the Vic20s. ;)

[hairog]

You can down grade your system to XP for free! Now you tell me. lol. Google ho.

[tony_glazebrook]

All - fyi, a review of mouse click functionality is on the list and will be done when I start on improving general UI look and feel, At the moment I am concentrating on things that add the most value to functionality.

In the meantime, I suggest that to minimise any issues with mouse clicks that you:
a. centre the mouse on the button concerned
b. click firmly
c. give the system time a little time to respond
d. try not to move the mouse between the down and the up parts of the click

Thanks for your patience with this little gremlin :o